Seven Years Later

“Power is of two kinds. One is obtained by the fear of punishment and the other by acts of love. Power based on love is a thousand times more effective and permanent then the one derived from fear of punishment.”
- Mahatma Gandhi

I have written about 9-11 before, and actually started a series of comments with some of the usual suspects. I wish that Solid would visit more often. I know another attack of that magnitude has not happened again, but my simple point about that day is that it should not have happened in the first place.

I am not pretending that we ever forget what happened, that for our generation would be impossible, but rather to take the positive that come out of that horrible day and continue with it. We came together as a nation to support each other, we showed solidarity and true feelings.

The U.S. helps the world in many ways, and like the quote above the most effective are the humanitarian efforts, however even with those we are not recognized or loved by the world as we should be. I sometimes wonder if all of those efforts should be concentrated in here, with our people or even our close neighbours and we should let others step up around the world.

To quote my mother in law, “You will gather more bees with a drop of honey than with a bucket of vinegar.” Simple acts of kindness make a difference and make our days better. So today, to remember this day shake the hand of someone you see every day but don’t talk to besides pleasantries, ask them about their lives, ask them where were they the day this country lost its innocence. United We Stand.

9 Responses to Seven Years Later

  1. 7 years ago I was exactly where I am now, doing a very similar project to the one I am working on today.

    It seems that most of the people I talk to fall into one of 2 categories (MOST I said). You have the people who are sure that nothing like this can ever happen again to the biggest world superpower. And you have the people paranoid about EVERYTHING who don’t care whose lives they have to crush to protect their little corner of the nation.

  2. Well said John.

  3. Great post! I was thinking, this morning about the morning of 9/11, where I was, where I’ve come since then, and so forth.

    “Simple acts of kindness make a difference and make our days better” I completely agree! Not in the “look at me everybody, I’m a big hippie!” sort of way, but I’ve been a bit too downtrodden lately with a bunch of random crap, and it really does feel good to do something nice for someone else, even if it’s just waiting an extra 10 seconds to hold the door for them.

  4. you may wana copy n paste that link.. dont know why it didnt make the whole thing clickable.

  5. Because the quotes broke the link.

  6. I’m not sure what I am supposed to say about this. I am pretty familiar with Logtar’s style and it is strange to me that you would quote Ghandi in this context. Ghandi was not against war (contrary to popular opinion). Ghandi understood the value of war and would have used it himself for his struggle for India’s independence from British rule if it had been a viable option. “Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the act of depriving a whole nation of arms, as the blackest.” – Mahatma Ghandi. Why would Ghandi say this if he had no need for guns? The reason Ghandi fought a non-violent war is because violence was not available to him. Ghandi’s above quote on arms reveals a broader truth that I am not sure Ghandi ever fully understood himself: Ours is world governed by the aggressive use of force. Whoever is willing to be the most destructive and violent will inevitably control the tone of interaction between 2 parties. This is clearly not as inspiring as Ghandi’s quote about love but it *IS* how the world works.

    Neville Chamberlain also thought that being a nice guy would keep Hitler from advancing against Britain. History has proven, that if not for the courage Winston Churchill, Britain would have been lost to Hitler’s armies. Churchill understood that unless he was willing to completely destroy his enemy, Britain would be ruled by his enemy. Here is an excerpt from Churchill’s finest hour speech: “Hitler knows that he will have to break us in this Island or lose the war. If we can stand up to him, all Europe may be free and the life of the world may move forward into broad, sunlit uplands. But if we fail, then the whole world, including the United States, including all that we have known and cared for, will sink into the abyss of a new Dark Age made more sinister, and perhaps more protracted, by the lights of perverted science. Let us therefore brace ourselves to our duties, and so bear ourselves that if the British Empire and its Commonwealth last for a thousand years, men will still say, ‘This was their finest hour.’” World War 2 was only won when the US showed Japan that there was no limit to the violence and destruction we were prepared to bring. The cold war was only won when Reagan escalated the arms race beyond the reach of the Soviet arms budget. Now the argument could be made that 9/11 was 19 individual guys that represented only their own interests in hijacking planes. But that is not substantiated by the history of Islamic Terrorism. Islamic terrorist have routinely shown complete disregard for distinction between civilians and soldiers, Geneva protections(http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/05/12/iraq/main616901.shtml) and even women and children(http://www.washtimes.com/news/2004/oct/13/20041013-121643-5028r/). This type of evil will only be destroyed when Islamic fundamentalists learn that the US is willing to destroy every last one of them rather than let them tyrannize our planet. When people accuse me of being too black and white on this issue, I am reminded of a quote by Barry Goldwater : Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Tolerance in the face of tyranny is no virtue.

  7. I was working at gateway computers tech support that day. We had a big screen tv wheeled into our cubicles for everyone to watch as events unfolded. For me the whole event felt a little surreal. I have been in a sence desensitized to watching things explode on TV. News and Weather were things that I avoided at the time as well.

    Today I do feel that I have grown a little since then, in that I feel to have a better understanding of world events and feel a tad more connected with the community as a whole.

  8. solid makes a good point. The problem with the Islamic Extremists and the Geneva conventions is much like how the British fought the Revolutionary War against the Colonial soldiers.

    You see, we follow and engage the enemies following the rules of war… Just as the British fought a gentlemen’s war. The fact that we do not kill civilians and destroy the infrustucture of our enemies is nothing more than refusing to fire upon military Captains while marching in a line out in the open with bright red coats. The British lost because of their own moral views on war. We won because we were fighting for what we believe in and changed the aspect of war.

    The Islamic Extremists want us obliterated. They will stop at nothing to ensure our defeat. The only way to stop them is to destroy them. And that is the difference between America at our nation’s birth leading up with America in WWII vs. America now. Even half a century ago, we dropped two nuclear weapons on the civilians of Japan, thus ending the war. War is won by the side that kills the most people. With today’s views, Truman would have never dropped the bomb. And that would have been a huge mistake.

    How many more Americans must die before we wake up and realize that our enemy won’t stop until they cease to exist? I love my country. And if it comes down to us or them… I chose us 100% of the time. It’s time to eliminate the threat first and deal with ethics later.

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