Comments on: Raiding and motorcycle riding http://blog.logtar.com/2008/07/20/raiding-and-motorcycle-riding/ Just a child stuck in adulthood Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:54:28 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: Burrowowl http://blog.logtar.com/2008/07/20/raiding-and-motorcycle-riding/#comment-358819 Burrowowl Tue, 22 Jul 2008 06:45:48 +0000 http://blog.logtar.com/?p=1317#comment-358819 I found that FFXI did an excellent job of encouraging good teamwork simply by being damned-near-impossible without it. For a while, it was pretty easy to tell if somebody was a good team player: he was over level 15. At some point the linkshells (the FFXI equivalent of clans and guilds) got their acts together, powerleveling folks that really didn't know what they were up to, which lead to a lot of the nonsense that resulted in my moving on from that title. WoW never really showed me that they had any intention of encouraging players to work well together, it was basically too easy to roam around solo. Anyhow, Starcraft 2 would have happened WoW or no Wow. Brood Wars is a professional sport in South Korea, after all. I found that FFXI did an excellent job of encouraging good teamwork simply by being damned-near-impossible without it. For a while, it was pretty easy to tell if somebody was a good team player: he was over level 15. At some point the linkshells (the FFXI equivalent of clans and guilds) got their acts together, powerleveling folks that really didn’t know what they were up to, which lead to a lot of the nonsense that resulted in my moving on from that title.

WoW never really showed me that they had any intention of encouraging players to work well together, it was basically too easy to roam around solo. Anyhow, Starcraft 2 would have happened WoW or no Wow. Brood Wars is a professional sport in South Korea, after all.

]]> By: Wookieluv http://blog.logtar.com/2008/07/20/raiding-and-motorcycle-riding/#comment-358818 Wookieluv Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:46:42 +0000 http://blog.logtar.com/?p=1317#comment-358818 Nice post d00d. I've never rode more than a few times and that was in the 80's.... my family has a bad history of accidents with motorcycles so I don't ride. Pugs (Pick Up Groups) do suck but some do work out, you have to have low expectations is all and you'll do fine...lol Depending on who I am with my tolerance level for non-listeners is almost zero. Time being the worlds most precious commodity I don't waste it on the Leeroy Jenkins of the world. I kick or leave, you'll find that those among you in your group are the same way they just need a push/reason. That being said, when you do find a good group of people add them as friends, tell them you liked the group and you should do it again. Savor those good Pugs. I, too am calling the next 18 months the BLIZZARD'PALOOZA. It's going to be amazing for gamers like me ; Lich King expansion for WoW StarCraft 2 Diablo 3 (btw to all those haters of WoW...you wouldn't have Diablo 3 or StarCraft 2 without WoW being so successful.) Nice post d00d. I’ve never rode more than a few times and that was in the 80’s…. my family has a bad history of accidents with motorcycles so I don’t ride. Pugs (Pick Up Groups) do suck but some do work out, you have to have low expectations is all and you’ll do fine…lol

Depending on who I am with my tolerance level for non-listeners is almost zero. Time being the worlds most precious commodity I don’t waste it on the Leeroy Jenkins of the world. I kick or leave, you’ll find that those among you in your group are the same way they just need a push/reason.

That being said, when you do find a good group of people add them as friends, tell them you liked the group and you should do it again. Savor those good Pugs.

I, too am calling the next 18 months the BLIZZARD’PALOOZA.

It’s going to be amazing for gamers like me ;

Lich King expansion for WoW
StarCraft 2
Diablo 3

(btw to all those haters of WoW…you wouldn’t have Diablo 3 or StarCraft 2 without WoW being so successful.)

]]> By: Nuke http://blog.logtar.com/2008/07/20/raiding-and-motorcycle-riding/#comment-358817 Nuke Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:45:53 +0000 http://blog.logtar.com/?p=1317#comment-358817 Nice post Logtar! I have never ridden a motorcycle, altho I have been fascinated by them for a long time. As a kid, I wasn't even allowed on the back of my uncles bike because my Mother was so against them. I think the comparisons are apt tho, and can be applied to many other examples. I know in boot camp team work was an emphasis, and we were only as strong as our weakest member. I could go on, but am basically lazy... As for WoW raids, the higher you get the harder the content. A failure in leadership (or any key position) has worse consequences for your team. I understand where you are coming from Barry (almost 40 here) but he only way to learn your part in raids is doing them. If you wanna play with some older farts, you will be welcome with us ! Nice post Logtar!

I have never ridden a motorcycle, altho I have been fascinated by them for a long time. As a kid, I wasn’t even allowed on the back of my uncles bike because my Mother was so against them.

I think the comparisons are apt tho, and can be applied to many other examples. I know in boot camp team work was an emphasis, and we were only as strong as our weakest member. I could go on, but am basically lazy…

As for WoW raids, the higher you get the harder the content. A failure in leadership (or any key position) has worse consequences for your team. I understand where you are coming from Barry (almost 40 here) but he only way to learn your part in raids is doing them. If you wanna play with some older farts, you will be welcome with us !

]]> By: Lucas http://blog.logtar.com/2008/07/20/raiding-and-motorcycle-riding/#comment-358816 Lucas Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:51:07 +0000 http://blog.logtar.com/?p=1317#comment-358816 wow, a great article! thanks sir. - L btw - i've hung up my gaming boots until Diablo-3 comes out, then I'll be back with a vengeance =) wow, a great article!
thanks sir.
- L

btw - i’ve hung up my gaming boots until Diablo-3 comes out, then I’ll be back with a vengeance =)

]]> By: logtar http://blog.logtar.com/2008/07/20/raiding-and-motorcycle-riding/#comment-358815 logtar Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:36:23 +0000 http://blog.logtar.com/?p=1317#comment-358815 Lucas, read this article http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/flashback/122_0911_the_pace_nick_ienatsch/index.html Barry, Our Guild, aptly named the old school has a lot of players over 30. :) You are more than welcome to come Azshara. Lucas,

read this article

http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/flashback/122_0911_the_pace_nick_ienatsch/index.html

Barry,

Our Guild, aptly named the old school has a lot of players over 30. :) You are more than welcome to come Azshara.

]]> By: Barry http://blog.logtar.com/2008/07/20/raiding-and-motorcycle-riding/#comment-358814 Barry Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:15:34 +0000 http://blog.logtar.com/?p=1317#comment-358814 I haven't participated in a "raid" yet (and my character is level 68!) mainly because of the chaos that seems to follow players who are so much younger than me. When you're a (gasp!) older gamer such as myself (that is, an original one. One of the ones that started playing video games like Asteroids and Pac Man when they first came out) it's difficult to relate to the gaming styles of younger kids. That said, it's difficult to complete all the WoW tasks, even the lower-level group tasks, without biting the bullet and joining one. I think I'm going to have to eventually. I haven’t participated in a “raid” yet (and my character is level 68!) mainly because of the chaos that seems to follow players who are so much younger than me. When you’re a (gasp!) older gamer such as myself (that is, an original one. One of the ones that started playing video games like Asteroids and Pac Man when they first came out) it’s difficult to relate to the gaming styles of younger kids.

That said, it’s difficult to complete all the WoW tasks, even the lower-level group tasks, without biting the bullet and joining one. I think I’m going to have to eventually.

]]> By: Lucas http://blog.logtar.com/2008/07/20/raiding-and-motorcycle-riding/#comment-358810 Lucas Sun, 20 Jul 2008 19:02:01 +0000 http://blog.logtar.com/?p=1317#comment-358810 Very cool. As a new motorcycle owner/rider, i look forward to doing some group riding soon. Thanks for the post! Very cool. As a new motorcycle owner/rider, i look forward to doing some group riding soon.

Thanks for the post!

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