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	<title>Comments on: Cliques&#8230; the bad part is not to be inside it&#8230;</title>
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	<description>Just a child stuck in adulthood</description>
	<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 13:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kcgeek</title>
		<link>http://blog.logtar.com/2008/04/30/cliques-the-bad-part-is-not-to-be-inside-it/#comment-358446</link>
		<dc:creator>kcgeek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 22:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I ware the same helm &#62;_&#60;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I ware the same helm &gt;_&lt;</p>
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		<title>By: Wookieluv</title>
		<link>http://blog.logtar.com/2008/04/30/cliques-the-bad-part-is-not-to-be-inside-it/#comment-358445</link>
		<dc:creator>Wookieluv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 16:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's ok Geek we can whisper about how Log thinks his Helm is da bomb when really it's lacking the proper stamina stats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s ok Geek we can whisper about how Log thinks his Helm is da bomb when really it&#8217;s lacking the proper stamina stats.</p>
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		<title>By: kcgeek</title>
		<link>http://blog.logtar.com/2008/04/30/cliques-the-bad-part-is-not-to-be-inside-it/#comment-358443</link>
		<dc:creator>kcgeek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 03:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can't help but wonder who the white elephant is?

I still feel like a newcommer to this group of frinends. =(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t help but wonder who the white elephant is?</p>
<p>I still feel like a newcommer to this group of frinends. =(</p>
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		<title>By: Burrowowl</title>
		<link>http://blog.logtar.com/2008/04/30/cliques-the-bad-part-is-not-to-be-inside-it/#comment-358442</link>
		<dc:creator>Burrowowl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 00:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh Logtar, you big suck-up, you.

Everybody's fair game. It's a cruel world.  As for why celebrities or published authors are more clearly fair targets for public comment than most private citizens is that they have taken some action to enter the public realm.  If you run a blog, you are effectively self-published. You may not have gone through the shared experiences of a traditional published author. If you didn't have to endure the hazing, you aren't really part of the fraternity, are you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh Logtar, you big suck-up, you.</p>
<p>Everybody&#8217;s fair game. It&#8217;s a cruel world.  As for why celebrities or published authors are more clearly fair targets for public comment than most private citizens is that they have taken some action to enter the public realm.  If you run a blog, you are effectively self-published. You may not have gone through the shared experiences of a traditional published author. If you didn&#8217;t have to endure the hazing, you aren&#8217;t really part of the fraternity, are you?</p>
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		<title>By: meesha.v</title>
		<link>http://blog.logtar.com/2008/04/30/cliques-the-bad-part-is-not-to-be-inside-it/#comment-358441</link>
		<dc:creator>meesha.v</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 00:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you are so interested in my breakfast habits maybe you should have stayed that night.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are so interested in my breakfast habits maybe you should have stayed that night.</p>
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		<title>By: Spyder</title>
		<link>http://blog.logtar.com/2008/04/30/cliques-the-bad-part-is-not-to-be-inside-it/#comment-358440</link>
		<dc:creator>Spyder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 20:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Shane I guess you better show up at a gathering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Shane I guess you better show up at a gathering.</p>
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		<title>By: Shane</title>
		<link>http://blog.logtar.com/2008/04/30/cliques-the-bad-part-is-not-to-be-inside-it/#comment-358439</link>
		<dc:creator>Shane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 20:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone who's not met any of you clowns, I'm hesitant to take sides, but I feel like I need to play Dr. Phil here for some reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who&#8217;s not met any of you clowns, I&#8217;m hesitant to take sides, but I feel like I need to play Dr. Phil here for some reason.</p>
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		<title>By: Spyder</title>
		<link>http://blog.logtar.com/2008/04/30/cliques-the-bad-part-is-not-to-be-inside-it/#comment-358438</link>
		<dc:creator>Spyder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 20:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Logtar, well said!  I won't punch you this time since you only said "T". LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Logtar, well said!  I won&#8217;t punch you this time since you only said &#8220;T&#8221;. LOL</p>
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		<title>By: DLC</title>
		<link>http://blog.logtar.com/2008/04/30/cliques-the-bad-part-is-not-to-be-inside-it/#comment-358437</link>
		<dc:creator>DLC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>XO is the new Tony.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>XO is the new Tony.</p>
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		<title>By: Bea</title>
		<link>http://blog.logtar.com/2008/04/30/cliques-the-bad-part-is-not-to-be-inside-it/#comment-358436</link>
		<dc:creator>Bea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just wish people behaved like adults instead of taking sides in a childish way, as if we were in a kindergarten sandbox.

There will always be trouble and drama in the blogosphere.  I choose to stay away from it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wish people behaved like adults instead of taking sides in a childish way, as if we were in a kindergarten sandbox.</p>
<p>There will always be trouble and drama in the blogosphere.  I choose to stay away from it.</p>
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		<title>By: Nuke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nuke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 14:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Communities, cliques, clubs, teams, whatever... people will generally find themselves joining a social grouping that reflects their attitudes and/or interests.  Heck, I am a joiner, which is ironic because I am also a loner.

In the local blogger "group"  I see a lot of variety but I also see a lot of openness to other opinions and views.  A lot of the ability to agree to disagree as it were.

For example, the satirist in question... Some people put up with it as the authors public facade but believe a decent person is underneath.  Some feel that he is a mean spirited individual.  Some outright hate him.  All have good reasons for doing so.  

But the fact that all those opinions are respected, says to me that the local bloggers are not a clique.  Because to be a clique, you have to embrace exclusion.  And this group seems anything but.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Communities, cliques, clubs, teams, whatever&#8230; people will generally find themselves joining a social grouping that reflects their attitudes and/or interests.  Heck, I am a joiner, which is ironic because I am also a loner.</p>
<p>In the local blogger &#8220;group&#8221;  I see a lot of variety but I also see a lot of openness to other opinions and views.  A lot of the ability to agree to disagree as it were.</p>
<p>For example, the satirist in question&#8230; Some people put up with it as the authors public facade but believe a decent person is underneath.  Some feel that he is a mean spirited individual.  Some outright hate him.  All have good reasons for doing so.  </p>
<p>But the fact that all those opinions are respected, says to me that the local bloggers are not a clique.  Because to be a clique, you have to embrace exclusion.  And this group seems anything but.</p>
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		<title>By: Xavier Onassis</title>
		<link>http://blog.logtar.com/2008/04/30/cliques-the-bad-part-is-not-to-be-inside-it/#comment-358434</link>
		<dc:creator>Xavier Onassis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 14:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You rawk Logtar!  We're all glad you came out to play.  The more the merrier!  Everyone is welcome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You rawk Logtar!  We&#8217;re all glad you came out to play.  The more the merrier!  Everyone is welcome.</p>
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		<title>By: Wookieluv</title>
		<link>http://blog.logtar.com/2008/04/30/cliques-the-bad-part-is-not-to-be-inside-it/#comment-358433</link>
		<dc:creator>Wookieluv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 13:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you post online you are fair game. (public) I'm new to the scene reading local blogs but to me the media or popular bloggers are entertainment. People like to hear themselves speak/write, which is the purpose of blogging (imo), with dashes of wanting and needing to feel relevant. I do. Cliques are a natural progression when making and meeting new potential friends, you hang with those you have common interests with. Those on the outside choose to be there. You can invite them in but it's really up to them to join up. 

As for Journalists who think bloggers aren't writers where do you read this? I'd like to read examples of what "Journalists"  think of people who blog, I minored in Journalism and the major differences between journalism and bloggers is a paid journalist has to back his writings with proof/fact finding and references/sources. Bloggers do tend to speak out their proverbial asses based on current media trends, hot topics and generalize popular culture (as I am now). Meh. 

You do make a interesting point and rings true, when an establishment feels threatened by a newly formed group they will ridicule them. Nothing worse when newcomers get organized and communicate with each other. The flip side is 3-5 years down the road if most of you are still writing and hanging out you will become the establishment. =D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you post online you are fair game. (public) I&#8217;m new to the scene reading local blogs but to me the media or popular bloggers are entertainment. People like to hear themselves speak/write, which is the purpose of blogging (imo), with dashes of wanting and needing to feel relevant. I do. Cliques are a natural progression when making and meeting new potential friends, you hang with those you have common interests with. Those on the outside choose to be there. You can invite them in but it&#8217;s really up to them to join up. </p>
<p>As for Journalists who think bloggers aren&#8217;t writers where do you read this? I&#8217;d like to read examples of what &#8220;Journalists&#8221;  think of people who blog, I minored in Journalism and the major differences between journalism and bloggers is a paid journalist has to back his writings with proof/fact finding and references/sources. Bloggers do tend to speak out their proverbial asses based on current media trends, hot topics and generalize popular culture (as I am now). Meh. </p>
<p>You do make a interesting point and rings true, when an establishment feels threatened by a newly formed group they will ridicule them. Nothing worse when newcomers get organized and communicate with each other. The flip side is 3-5 years down the road if most of you are still writing and hanging out you will become the establishment. =D</p>
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