Fascism

“Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power”

-Benito Mussolini

I am not very political. It is not because I don’t have my own ideas and convictions, but because I don’t believe I have the time to really gather the information to make a true political statement. So don’t take this post as anything other than me presenting some ideas to start discussion. Fascism is a word that I believe a lot of people use but not many truly understand. While a lot of governments could be consider Fascist, even that of Adolf Hitler, to me the term only refers to Mussilini an the Italians during his time in power.

Taking the above quote and thinking about our current situation in America, one could say that all the government scandals would make us look fascist. I am really not sure. I would hope that we have a case of some bad apples and not that our whole goverment is a well “oiled” machine working for corporate interest and not the American people.

Websters dictonary defines facism as a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition. We see this definition painted on the movie V for Vendetta. A movie that truly recommend. Do you believe we live under a fascist regime?

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7 Responses to Fascism

  1. Have you ever read the V for Vendetta comic book?

    The head guy (named Adam Sutler in the movie, Adam Susan in the book) is not nearly as cartoonish and makes a decent case for fascism. The concept of fascism, he explains, is that one stick is easy to break. If you tie together 10 sticks, it becomes more difficult. Fascism is built on that concept and in that sense, we all have at least some fascist impulses. Fascism as we define it is this power unchecked.

    Our current system, for all its faults, does have numerous checks on it. Presidents are forceably deposed every 8 years, congress must approve of laws (which they don’t always, see immigration and Dubai), federalism, and the courts. A fascist regime would not place as much attention on polls as our government does (sometimes the will of the public is overruled, but it is nonetheless constantly fixated upon). It would also be more effective at getting things done. Mostly bad things, of course, but things. That’s in the Webster’s sense.

    As far as the Mussolini quote, in fascism it is usually the government that eats up (nationalizes) the corporations. Arguably in America it is the reverse: Corporations have eaten up our government. I’m not sure in either case they merge because their interests are too divergent.

  2. I think people in this country have become forgetful and lazy. It’s my opinion that people place way to much faith in “those that represent us”. I am NOT a democrat and I am not a republican. I think our two party system sucks, because they are fueled by the same money, and PACS. To call corporations evil is not correct. People like to cluster, categorize and characterize things because they are too lazy to research for themselves. They subscribe to an ideology so that someone else can do their thinking for them, hence why we have “tag phases” to describe someone’s, groups, organizations and political perspectives in negative ways.

    All this stuff that’s going on right now is not new, and will be soon forgotten, because people in general have more important things to do than get involved. I love America, regardless of its faults and short comings.

    p.s.
    Oh, and as for Mussolini? He was probably a hippie ;-)

  3. fascism takes hold when the people sleep and look for scapegoats for their problems.

  4. Without the freedom of the American people and the vast resources this country has, there would be no corporations and there would be no advancement in science, medicine, and technology. Cartoons, movies, and literature in general have conditioned us as children to dispise the so-called ‘evil’ corporations. This is bull $%*#. And every time I see a new Disney movie that has some evil corporation trying to undermine the world, it makes me sick. The sad thing is that it’s only been the last decade or so that I realized the negative propaganda.

    The founders of our country had an idea that had never been tried successfully. And even though times are different now, the underlying truth is still the same because it works. It works so well that it has spread throughout the world.

    My argument has always been this… In the last 200 years, the world has advanced more than it has over the last 5000 years of known written history. I firmly believe it is because of the introduction of freedom and subsequently, Capitalism. My thought has been, if the USA existed 2000 years ago, how advanced would we be today?

    Communism may be a utopia on paper and Fascism may be oppressive — our way of life may well not be the greatest, but compared to every other form of government in history, ours has worked out the best. Where else could we sit here and argue about it without fear of being imprisoned or put to death?

    The problems we face today are petty in comparisons to the struggles of life in history’s past. We have it so good that we have to ‘invent’ our own problems. We’re spoiled. So spoiled, our biggest problems are the price of oil, who we decide can live in this country, and whether or not people on the other side of the world deserve the kind of freedom we enjoy. Think about that for a moment…

  5. So strange – I was just talking to my friend the other day about facism – and about Mussolini in particular.

    I have to be in agreement with Travis though. The grass isn’t always greener, and in the case of capitalism and the United States, I have to say we have it pretty well compared to any other.

    It’s never about from the ability of one to the need of another by force.

    Thanks for dropping in, by the way….. miss your tag board though. It’s a shame what spammers can do.

    PS – Can one put an RSS feed on blogdrive? Do you know?

  6. It is not because I don’t have my own ideas and convictions, but because I don’t believe I have the time to really gather the information to make a true political statement.

    Oh, come now John. You know with RSS, that’s not true! How else do u think I catch up with the news? You just have to go to reputable sources, and blogs help.

  7. In his original article, “Fascism Anyone?”, Laurence Britt compared the regimes of Hitler, Mussolini, Franco, Suharto, and Pinochet and identified 14 characteristics common to those fascist regimes. There is a page out there that is a collection of news articles dating from the start of the Bush presidency divided into topics relating to each of the 14 points of fascism. THis is a page I really think you should see before you say that America is not fascist.

    The 14 points of Fascism and Bush

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