So you think rap is the most useless music there is. Just a bunch of noises tied together with someone basically just talking in the background. Then you really have no clue what rap really is. While I would have to agree that some rap is not good, the same can be said for any music genre out there. There is good and bad music. I like Rap, it is not my favorite type of music, but it is up there close to Dance, Alternative and Latin.
What I like the most about Rap and I think most people that are closed minded about it never get to experience is the poetry behind it. Take TuPac for example, if you look at his work like poetry and not Rap, you can really understand his message and see his genius.
From the Song Changes
and still I see no changes, can’t a brother get a little peace?
there’s war on the streets
and the war in the Middle East
instead of war on poverty
When you look beyond the negative words, at times used in rap, and really get into the message, you can learn a lot about a culture that seems so foreign and yet it has been grown in our own land. I am not saying that there is a huge musical merit to all rap, but there should be recognition of it as a true form of art. I listen to rock sometimes and hear 3 cords being played over and over, and that is not even to mention the bad drums, then someone says that a rap song is not really music because it is the same harmony playing over and over. How closed minded some people are baffles me.
As a form of expression rap is very powerful. It has allowed a lot of people to have a voice. Listening to rap would not make you an expert on Black culture, nor will it truly connect you in any way, but it is a window that you can look through at times. Be mindful though, that some of the messages are not positive. The disrespect to woman bothers me quite a bit, but it is all about knowing what to digest and what to leave on the plate.
I am not saying that we should all like rap, I am simply stating that it should not be completely dismissed, because like food, a little ethnicity does not hurt anyone.
Rap, Music, Race, Rock, Tupac, Ethnic
23 Mar 06
just browsed on by… : )
i agree that rap can be powerful. it’s just sad that a lot of rap and/or hip hop has turned into “lyrics” about how cool they are and big boobs and sex and money and their cars.
this is what distresses me.
like when i hear people who have that horrific song “i’m in love with a stripper” on their cell phones. their cell phones!!
*sigh*
23 Mar 06
Está bien, como poesía se lo acepto, pero como música… no, nisiquiera alcanza a ser música. (si acaso solo los primeros 5-10 años de rap tenían algo de sabor, “Rapper’s Delight” es bien cool, por ejemplo)
23 Mar 06
Keli has always been way more into rap/hip-hop than I, but I am fond of a number of rap artists, 2Pac being my favorite for the reason you wrote about. Believe it or not, they do make edited rap albums and for artists like 2Pac, the words could actually be a good influence on people (some of the songs that is…I don’t think “2 of Amerika’s Most Wanted” is a good influence =P )
Kanye West also has some songs that are very well written lyrically and speak of issues that do need to be talked about, like racism, classism, poverty, etc. If you can get past West’s ego, you have a good shot at being even slightly inspired.
23 Mar 06
In the last 3 years, Hip-Hop has become the biggest selling music genre in the industry. It’s in video games, movies. It’s my favorite genre and I enjoy how rappers manage to tell a full life story in 3 min.
24 Mar 06
I agree. Years ago, I didn’t have an interest in rap. Only in recent years have I carefully listened to what rappers are saying to be enlightening and worth tuning into. It helps to be open about listening to various music styles. It’s all cool to me, too.
24 Mar 06
I love rap, what can I say?! Kris is a pro at not only a football guru, but he’s even more bad-a in knowing about rap. His favorite rapper is 2Pac.
24 Mar 06
I agree with you on the merits and the whole feeling behind rap but a lot of the times I just can’t tolerate the lyrics and the loud bass. But hey to each his own! I like music that a lot of others aren’t fond of either.
24 Mar 06
If you like rappers who tell stories in a few minutes, check out Jin, he’s a Chinese rapper. Sounds crazy, I know, but some of the stories in is songs literally had me stop what I was doing at the time to listen to the song to find out how the story ended.
Course, rappers are obviously not the only ones to be good story tellers through song.
24 Mar 06
Oh, believe me Daniel I love that part of Rap… just wait a couple of days when I have time to translate a really cool Rap song.
27 Mar 06
It’s true that some rap songs do have good poetry and are dedicated to enlightening or solving problems that currently plage society but if you look at the percentage of rap songs that have those kind of lyrics compared to the ones which talk about their riches, fame, women, etc, you’ll see its very small.
The message behind 2Pac’s Changes doesn’t seem to apply when he sings Hit ‘Em Up…
Great site btw!
28 Mar 06
Rap has changed people! it is currently destroying our FUCKING society because the most inspirational thing in the world is music. Rock music encourages guitar, drums.. Techno encourages fucken nerds… Rap music encourages violence, guns, and gang formation.
It’s the FUCKING future, and rap will be the end of it.
Sure, there is some people who arn’t effected by music, but alot of people are.
I’m not just picking on rap. There is some really hardcore metal stuff that encourages suicide, but rap is by far, the worst genre to destroy ones world.
Another thing that rap might inspire is to make more rappers. This is not bad, but if you are a rapper and decide to choose what you want to “rap” about is violence, I URGE you, to stop and come to your sences and make this world a better place.
Some rap songs arn’t really about violence, but the violent rap songs are the most popular for some strange reason. This has to stop.
Want to tell me I am an asshole?
god_of_bass66@hotmail.com
Thank you for reading this long ass post.
28 Mar 06
Certain people take it too seriously, but I don’t blame that on just the music. I’m into all types of music and I don’t listen to a violent song and wanna do something stupid. There’s peer pressure, poverty, fucked up disfunctional families and 7878899 OTHER factors as to crime and such, besides just their preferred music.
That said, I get annoyed when people quote Dead Prez and Immortal Technique as examples of “positive alternatives” from the mainstream stuff. The following things are bad, in hip-hop, now.
1. Racism
2. Religious Supremacy
3. Sexism
4. Homophobia
5.Anti-Intellectualism
6. Materialism Over True Values Of Any Kind
Here’s what annoys me. Why on earth do people quote Dead Prez and Immortal Technique as two of the biggest things on the underground scene as far as positive alternatives to the commercial stuff? Dead Prez are racist segregationalists who think attacking poor white America (who should be allies) will help their fight against the white government, and Im Tech is on the wrong side of 2, 3, AND 4 from above list. I grew up with true progressive (rock) artists Pink Floyd, which isn’t to to say that I don’t listen to ignorant artists, but I just wouldn’t make the mistake of calling them progressive or the best that their respective genres has to offer. Or DEFINITELY not referencing them, to make a point in relation to ignorance, in regards to their genre.
Anyway, I like groups like The Coup, Public Enemy, Kool Keith/Dr. Octagon, Necro, 2Pac, and Deadlee. It’s not all the crap on MTv and radio. Seriously, I’d blame them before anyone. Moron(def not “Music”, any more) TeleVision is evil incarnate.
08 Apr 06
In the last 3 years, Hip-Hop has become the biggest selling music genre in the industry. It’s in video games, movies. It’s my favorite genre and I enjoy how rappers manage to tell a full life story in 3 min.
Right, those movies and games were produced by the rapper and all suck.
And rap is not music, music is Melody & Rhythm, rap has no melody and the rhythm (If you can call it that) is a boring drum beat and random noices. Black people should have stuck with blues and least they knew how to play.
Ps. to all kids who are just about to spend there money on a gun, you will get more chicks & more respect if you go buy a guitar it feels much more powerfull than a gun and you wont go to jail for taking it to school.
12 Apr 06
ok thats ur opinion and all but rap-hip hop-r’n'b and ne otha thing like that is absolute CRAP!! i mean c’mon try som real bands like Nirvana,white stripes,the vines,him,korn,dead kennedys ect becauyse if u even consider rap as to be a music YOUR FUKING CRAZY rap is not even a music it is……it is bullshit!! thats all i’m gonna say now get ova ur selves and ur rap bullshit!!
21 Apr 06
Rap sucks. It requires absolutely no skill. They dont play any instruments. Its a way for unskilled people to make money.
R A P S U C K S
22 Apr 06
Are you going to say acapella singers or strict vocalists like Sinatra are talentless? The good rappers have rhythm and a vocabulary that’ll make you bust out the books. A good rapper has beats, and lyrical skills. You’ll find shit that sucks, in any genre. I don’t judge the true punk off that Green Day-Good Charlotte MTV bullshit, though.
26 Apr 06
omg have u ever listened to rap closely? its like opening ur car door and that beep comes on. its just the same shit over and over again and gets so fucken annoying. and not to mention their beats goddamn its so simple dont the drummer ever get bored of playing the same shit over and over again? they never play a fill or any cool drum riffs.
27 Apr 06
Rap Sucks, simple. It will be like Disco soon. Thanks all those damn pop bands in the 90’s who helped bring up the hype and build up to this noise we hear today called rap. A bunch of posers trying to play “hardcore” is what it is. I could give a shit how much bling you’re wearing, or the ‘dubs’ you’re riding on, or the mercedes you drive. It’s not music, it’s noise.
R A P S U C K S.
27 Apr 06
That’s your opinion. BUT, before you say that, AT LEAST make sure you’ve listened to shit other than MTV gangsta rap or bling. 50 Cent or Lil Jon don’t represent the entire world of rap. The fact that you people keep talking about ALL rap being about “bling” or “dubs” shows you don’t know anything at all about rap, except what comercial shit you see on TV and radio.
That’s like me listening to Nickelback or Puddle of Mudd and saying metal sucks. I obviously hadn’t heard real metal if I was thinking about these groups, and then judging metal. I’d think metal was a bunch of whiny pussies. But, that crap’s just what you hear everywhere. NOT REPRESENTATIVE OF THE WHOLE GENRE.
12 Jul 06
rap is soooo racist. it makes blacks can critisize everything whites do, wether its fly a confederate flag, refer to blacks as other famous blacks, or hang out with other whites than blacks, but i guess its okay in rap to critisize the entire way that whites live. im sick and tired of going down the street, sonic, or even at a fucking gas station hear blown out speakers with rap. FUCK RAP!!!
Tony MacAlpine, Bill Laswell, thanks for not going to the darkside
25 Jul 06
I agree about rap being racist, and “gangsta” blacks too. Gangsta blacks always call white people crackas or crackers, yet if we call them “niggas” they whine and bitch about their homies coming to kill us. This is what makes me want to join the Mafia, to cleanse these “gangstas” off God’s Earth.
28 Jul 06
Personally, I don’t care much for the “pop-rappers.” They are too formulaic. It’s a damn shame that they don’t have the seeds to break new ground. When I listen to NELLY…and then put on a KRS-1 album, or a Jurassic 5 album, or a Saian Suap Crew album…It makes me sick to my stomach. It makes me sick to my stomach that I wasted 3 minutes of my valuable time listening to Nelly, when I could have listened to a quality hip-hip track…or some good Jazz.
01 Aug 06
Someone said rap requires no skill, they don’t play any instruments, and is a way for unskilled people to make money. To counter this statement, I think the turntable counts as an instrument. It requires many of skills that are needed to play the more ‘conventional’ instruments, such as: a sense of timing, developed hand-eye coordination, technical competence and creativity. Turntablism alone is one of the two main components of Hip Hop music (the other being MCing). If you don’t know what a turntable is, what are you doing criticizing a music genre when you don’t even know the half of it?
09 Aug 06
Rap sucks. Using simple MIDI programs i can create a beat, and cover that with some guy talking fast about hoes and the hood and i got myself a rap song. There are many points to criticize about rap, but most of them have already been said. The lyrics for one don’t have any poetic value other than simple rhyme schemes, such as AABB or ABAB, and half the time the words don’t even rhyme, its just the way they say it. I’m sure that a good enough rapper could rhyme “stick” with “frog”. The lyrics also require no thought. They hardly ever tell a story(which was actually the perpose of music throughout history), use metephoric language or express any deep emotions. The lack of lyrical creativity pisses me off enough, but there is also the lack of musical creativity. Rap is the only music that I know of that DOESN’T REQUIRE A KEY SIGNATURE or REAL INSTRUMENTS (other than techno in some incidents). But you have to say, they make up for there lack of key signature in time signature. They claim to be masters of beat and rhythm, but just because all rap songs have is beat, doesn’t mean that rappers are the best with it. There is a genre of music i like called Progressive Metal, which has emotion, technicality, lyrics of meaning, singers(different than a vocalist), instruments and above all, is made for the music and not the image. Although you may not like it it is a hell of a lot better than rap.
17 Aug 06
rap iz da best u fkn fagz uz are fkn gayyyyy
25 Aug 06
Oh yeah, reeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaalllllll good. “Yoyoyo sup tough dawg!” Oh yeah, beautiful music. “Girl you gat a sexah ass!” How subtle and charming. “Sssuck mah balls bitch, that’s da spot!” Oh, lovely. “Shake that Laffy Taffy” Even though Laffy Taffys don’t even exist, those are such wonderful stuff to sing, I mean, talk about. Rap is mahvelous, daaaaaaahhhhhhhhhling. Mahvelous.
You realize that I was being sarcastic? Do you know what sarcastic means? Have you ever came within a mile of a book?
And what terrific grammar you have! (sarcastic)
I must agree with Matt. Rappers should frigg off, and leave us good, large-brained, people of humanity alone. Meanwhile, those insults to the music industry, “gangstazz” should go crawl under a rockk. Amen brother!
27 Aug 06
RAP SUCKKKKKKKKKKKS SHIT
11 Sep 06
One thing about you minded peopel? You know what means “limited imagination and mind” or “closed mind” what i see here are people under 5 year old in mind (even you are mature fizicaly) arguing about that they call music let`s see
let be like you all for 1 sec :
”
Rap sucks ?
Regge sucks ?
Metal sucks ?
all genere sucks ?
OK?
fuk them kill them!!!!!!!!1
CLASSIC music is MUSIC !!!”
ok STOP! it make me vomit!
How do you all in here know about music o yeah you learned at school but you don`t even` got the talent to make a band why? You don`t have the ambition to do it! To sing in front of 300 peopels it is not to easy!
I`ve listene`d to rap music from 7 year i have 21 i`ve listen classical music like Mozzart (my prefered one for his childish songs that express happyness),Bethoven,George Enescu (the genius),i`ve listen to D`n`B,Techno,Michael Jare,jakson,Elvis,Metalica etc
You say you know music ? you listen ? listen what you like evreyoane has diferent thaste ok? so if i feel wanna relax i listen classic music if somethin bother me i listen rap evrey stile of music represent sentimets if rap is Violence ? rock is Nervous ? classic is Concentred ? techno Mathematical Minded ? that dosen`t make them all crap just representing the a feeling a story etc
so rap is killing peopel?
whooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the Unreal Tournament ? Quake ? and other games named FPS are not whorse that rap? you got a real gun an shout? bam bam bam ! blood on the screen?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Action moviesc blam blam real ones killin` echother
ok?
Horror films ? aren`t they shocant that murders of 2-Pac and Notorious B.I.G. ?
lot`s of childs at the age of 7 to 9 year if the look at horror movies get shoked for the rest of they`r life bumbling word and sayn wanna kill someone !!!!!!!!!!!!
go to shrink it will tell you that
rap music dose`nt produce this aspect why ? the photos are easy to undertand that some lyrics
so you think rap kill you?
how about rock artist that get drunck all the time ? that never wash themself? that dosent go to cut theyr “woman hear” you? or the drugs that they use ?!
Something about clubs :
Techno,House extasy and cocain seeling facility
Rap selling whores and marijuana (that dose nothin bad than extasy and cocain)
Rock alchool and human disgust and heroin (uh heroin?) except to this Balads (and all chillout rok with no offensive atacks)
Pop/Dance music for all humans not for the one with hair or not
Traditional music and Classic music is the original music in this case they are : song played at accustic guitar (not metal not rock with no drums),regge,tablature (african origins and the original music begining and drum root) etc
So about haitn` or not ?: what kill you YOU! Your supidity and incapability to face the reality that you like the LIE that GOOD rule is not to LIE ? so what religion does have to music? let`s see
all music are for relaxation,distraction,and make people meat echother or you`ll stay solo rest of you life ? don`t wanna have familly? dohh s
Bling Bling is a music aproach to Materialism that not music is blame for it is the Humans that are MATERIALIST and STUPID that buy THE FUKING CD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
SO IF YOU BUYNG A CD ABOUT FUKING AND BUYNG DRUGS THEN IS YOUR FOULT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU ARE THE FOOL NOT THEM!!! they will not sing if you don`t buy
Rapper that sing about sentiments and feelings are not buyed why ? Bechos lot`s of humans are MATERIALIST and do not trust in GOOD but in MONEY that is a fake idol that make WAR!!!!!!!! that why lots of humans are dead about MONEY MONEY AND MONEY a pice of metal a pice of paper for what? for Money that are made by a man? not by NATURE!
so if you thinck music suks listen to another music dont kill anyone about the music hi like
Music is from the soul if you haitin` a music genere then you are an MATERIALIST yourself and you like to lick some gyrll bechose you don`t permit to face another
kids kids kids
so stope the fuking argue and make some MUSIC to eliminate the BLING BLING fenomen!
15 Sep 06
Listen…The so-called music “Rap” is the easiest money-maker in the music business, it takes no talent at all, give a 4yr old kid a mic and some pants that are too big so he can hold his crotch area to keep em up and you got a rapper. Poetry you say? It wouldn’t be called rap is it was poetry…R&B you fucknuts. I prefer to listen to all types of metal, because once a metal head…that’s all you want to listen to.
And don’t tell me i don’t know what rap truely is…IT’S PLAYED ON THE GOD-DAMN RADIO…NONSTOP, Rap is just the most played out music their is…you listen to a song then it’s over, change the station…their it is again, how can you listen to one song 40 fucking times, i mean…you buy an album then you only play 1 song, waste of 20 god-damn dollars.
Don’t get me wrong when i say all they talk about is weed and pussy, cause i sure as hell love to smoke and get me some ass once in a while, but to spit it out on a mic and tell the whole world that i basically have AIDS from fucking the wrong women too many times…nah, i’ll leave that up to you dumb fucking gangsters.
I’m not a racist person, cause their’s whites in the rap industry that i hate as well, but their is also blacks in the metal industry who i like (Howard Jones from KillSwitch Engage)…
Take no offense to this but RAP IS THE WORST AND MOST UNTALENTED MUSIC THERE IS! Thank you for your time on reading this. (I tend to do weird things when i’m bored…like go on this site and actually reply lol)
16 Sep 06
Rap having poetry? This is an interesting concept..
I thought it was all about having grillz, gold chains, and a bunch of girls wearing booty shorts dancing around..
If you actually listen to the lyrics of most popular songs now they can usually be summed up in a few short sentences..
Meet me in the mall, its going down. Meet me in the trail, its going down.
drop it like its hot, drop it like its hot, drop it like its hot, drop it like its hot, drop it like its hot
backthen theydin wanme nowim hot theyall onme, backthen theydin wanme nowim hot theyall onme
mike jones who? mike jones who? mike jones who? mike jones who? mike jones who? mike jones who? (about 50 more times)
What the hell is this crap?
Ill tell you, Its the most talentless load of shit I have ever seen.
Most of the beats are being remixed, and the only reason you see this crap on tv is because the music industry figured out they could make money by trying to make it look like being a gangbanger is cool..
Honestly, If if weren’t crammed in your face every day on mtv, and you didnt hear it on the radio all the time, would you actually listen to the cd? Most people don’t realize, they only like the crap on the radio and tv because they think everyone else likes it..
How did we go from songs like “life is a highway” to crap like “mike jones -back then”
17 Sep 06
go make music
what whas the last time listening Sting ?
You all metall head mounging that you know music you all day same shit
Have you really read what i`ve wrrote don`t thinck so
Take a fucking achool maibe will engligthen you metal head and see
that the idee i`ve wroote
You thinck i like “Drop it like is hot!” ? fuck never buyed a Snoop cd
Listen to a fucking uncknown rapper that sings about the Incantantion then about good and evil so
Poetry it is but not on MTV so shut the fuck up childs
Evrey stile of music has problems the problem here is that at the radio and mtv and other is to much BLING BLING!
like PINK saing on her last song “I` don`t need you I just wana entratain So give me you money!” wtf ? pussy smels money and you give to her
BLING BLING means “give the people songs about money and fucking”
not about how to thinck clean why?
Bechouse someone that rule any country will be ass kikt out at next Vote thing
so you are brain washed my friends ?
a song that is at radio for 40 time it means tat 40*1000 mans an womans are brain wahsed for a second even your child will say this
You all droped all my ideess i`ve listed you don`t wanna face the truth
even you are brain whased
wit metal rock all wash out
indirectli
>laboratory rats
that you wanna be all you life ?
a rat ? listening what your gang listent fuck even what your gang fuck?
even get a whife that whas with all your gang ?
bechos her like to suck dick and love Metalica?
See Pamela Anderson …..no ofens ?
11 Nov 06
I’m going to say that rap sucks. This is what is called “music” for conformists. Your just like everybody else. And yes all you rappers like this shit because you are brainwashed. The majority of people have almost always if not always been wrong. Don’t rely on the majority to dictate who you are. This rap movement is blind obedience. Blind obedience happened before- it happened with the Nazis during World War II. 60 million people died because nobody questioned Hitler. You might think I’m using a faulty analogy but I’m not. People are joining gangs and committing crimes at an alarming rate. This rap crap is making people want to live this lifestyle instead of understanding the so-called hard ships of ghetto life (which is fake and does not apply to most people).
Rap is not music. It has no instruments. It has no melody or harmony. It only has rhythm. The rapper cannot change the pitch of his/her voice when singing (and R&B singers cannot sing beyond one key). If you do hear background music, it is a sample. Samples are stolen from other musicians. It is that plain and simple.
Turntables don’t count as instruments.
I’ve talked to at least 10 insiders in the music industry. All of them told me that the rappers don’t make their own beats. Some producer will make a drum loop and sell it to the music industry. All the rappers do is write some crappy lyrics.
And don’t give me that underground rap excuse. Jurassic 5 can’t even play their instruments. They play out of tune.
And another thing: stop forcing this retarded genre down my throat.
Why don’t all you conformist sheep grow up?!
13 Nov 06
If rap takes no talent, I dare y’all to make a song, and see how it does in the charts. Nobody? No-one?? Thought so.
13 Nov 06
“This rap crap is making people want to live this lifestyle instead of understanding the so-called hard ships of ghetto life (which is fake and does not apply to most people).”
that’s not the rapper’s fault…
“Rap is not music. It has no instruments. It has no melody or harmony. It only has rhythm. The rapper cannot change the pitch of his/her voice when singing…”
listen to Bone Thugs-N-Harmony…
“Turntables don’t count as instruments.”
says who?
“I’ve talked to at least 10 insiders in the music industry. All of them told me that the rappers don’t make their own beats. Some producer will make a drum loop and sell it to the music industry. All the rappers do is write some crappy lyrics.”
Dr. Dre is a producer and makes his own songs. OWNED!!11
“Rap is all about money, women and sex”
Listen to Bone Thugs-N-Harmony, they got a song called “Change the world”, no bling bling and no sexual glorification. They talk about changing the world. Even Elvis talks about love…
“Rap causes violence”
Rap is not the only thing that causes violence. You got video games, movies, etc. Remember Charles Manson, he claims The Beatles caused him do commit crimes.
“Rap promotes drugs”
So do hippies.
“Rap doesn’t use instruments”
some songs use violins
“Rap is about a guy moaning on a mic with shitty lyrics and with simple beats”
They choose their beats, and have to write rhymes to go with the flow.
I’m not talking about the shit on MTV, that’s a bunch of corporate BS…
Listen to 2pac, biggie, ice cube, wu tang, bone thugs-n-harmony, nas, etc.
15 Nov 06
fucken ignorant people. people who listen the good real rap or hip-hop hate that shit on mtv or whatever. but if you say immortal technique or necro should sing popshit or play heavy metal what the fuck do the people they grew up with will say to them or treat them like.
15 Nov 06
krs-one black star public enemy etc. do you think they’re -Retards Attempting Poetry-? no
they’re certain individuals whose concerned
about something or have the urge to say something or spread a message to other people in a way that’s presentable and respectable. before you try to project yourself and critisize anything but not know enough about it, stop and think.. do i really want to say “this is shit” or “this is the shit” and be an arrogant and ignorant jackass? i’m not trying to be an asshole but that’s just the way it is.
16 Nov 06
“Rap having poetry? This is an interesting concept..
I thought it was all about having grillz, gold chains, and a bunch of girls wearing booty shorts dancing around..”
damn youre ignorant as a mothafuka
21 Nov 06
OH my god i cant believe there is actually an argument for this case. how in the world do you justify rap as music. Im going to speak from drummer’s point of view (i have the right to because i am one) Turn on mtv, vh1, bet, hell even fuse. I bet that every song you hear in the rap genre has the same damn friggin beat. 8th notes on the high hats. And a snare on the 3’s. Oh no wait they changed the snare to a snap. Apparently a snap of the fingers is more gangster. WHAT THE HELL IS THAT. Oh and they have done away with the bass drum completely in some songs. Now this pisses me off because i am a drummer, and i know that there are a lot of gifted drummers out there who arent able to play for hip hop because the producer has taken their job. Dont give me this underground shit either because i dont like rap, AT ALL! i dont care how poetic the underground stuff is. Im looking at the genre from a musical standpoint. I would like for “dem franchise girls” to lean right into a freaking trash can. Oh yeah btw, nirvana sucks. Now back to rap. This genre was the result of letting retards who dont know anything about music into the recording studio. Anyways i can rant and rave about this genre all night long but im tired. I could also rant and rave about how mtv has switched the interest in music from talent to looks. Which is why i listen to cd’s because obviously mtv controls what’s being played on the radio. In some way or another. Here is my list of music that sucks rap-hip_hop-r&b-crunk shit- snap music-that weird techno crap timberlake is trying to put out-emo rock (pussy rock)- hardcore- satanist metal- punk- pop-whatever is on mtv. If you want to listen to music look up dream theater, liquid tension experiment, or anything that has mike portnoy on drums. Classic rock is great too. Listen to yes. And man am i tired___ im done
10 Jan 07
Rap just sucks, techo is better…. By FAR!
12 Feb 07
i love this. i agree 1oooooo%
18 Feb 07
Yes, Rap Sucks!
I think the vote is in, as you can see by this long heated blog debate
The Rap has died, a long slow deck of 52, with the money on the floor an da suckers game of fate.
Bye bye Rap, Bye bye Rap, Smell yea lateaaaaaaaahhhh……….
21 Feb 07
hahahaha you guy crack me up! raps been out for 30 years and is growing more popular by day, hate it or love its always going to be on the radio and every other thing u see, dont think just because ppl in this blog hates rap means rap has died lolzzzz dump fukers
05 Mar 07
Rap is not music. It’s retarded poetry with some repetitive fucking noise in the background! All you black hip hop haters, stand up and make your voices heard!
15 Mar 07
Rap can have really powerful lyrics, it touches upon the things the glamour pop tends to avoid. But just such exaggeration in gangsta slang and that as-much-as-one-can-rudeness really appals. Though I sometimes listen to it, it’s just fun , sometimes search the web for cool music bollywood music is a site where one can compile perfect playlists. A cushy spot for a music addict!
16 Mar 07
It’s just a matter of taste, but most of the people who are hating on rap are mostly nerds who never gave rap an opportunity in the first place. I know that 99% of rap on TV and radio is bad, but there are many good rappers that y’all might not know about.
Nas
The Roots
Mos Def
Talib Kweli
Gang Starr
MF Doom
Gza
Bronze Nazareth
Masta Ace
and others.
You can say that you don’t like rap, but to say that it si not music is just plain ignorant.
24 May 07
You clowns crack me up, LOL especially that shemale that claims to be a drummer thats tired. You sound like a bitter rotten individual that didn’t make it too far, so you have to hate anyone else who has. I do agree that 90% of rappers sucks (and yet raps all I listen to, well the other 10% anyway) As for the rest of you ppl claiming that rap sucks,its not music, & even saying there’s no talent … what kind of dream world are you living in? I don’t like metal/rock but I know that thats the artists style and dont mock it. But then again thats me. Every artist has a style thats different. Also to the person who brought up the song “Hit’em Up” by 2Pac … that song was dedicated to the ppl who shot him (5 times) you try being shot in the head & testicals. I bet you’d be furious aswell. Rap is poetry & story telling in one and no other for of music does it that way. Anyways not everyone who doesn’t like rap is closed minded. If you are open minded, give tracks like
“Eminem - 03 - Stan”
“2pac - 11 - Don’t You Trust Me”
“Nas - 06 - Rewind
a listen throughly, you might just see the poetry.
Of course if your closed minded, then this wouldn’t be for you.
Anyhow in being prepared in advance to be flammed on by you few miserable internet tough guy & past has-beens (LOL) who are mad at the world because they have no life & a fat ugly in control wife/partner, The ones that sit there and have to circle jerk it every night drinking beer with their buddies (you know who you are… Do I really need to say more? pardon my vocabulary, as it might be too thugged out for you few Fake-ass B!t@hes! takecare,
“God Bless The Child Who Child Who Can Hold His Own”
06 Jun 07
Let’s look back in history - Swing came about in the ’20’s and ended about thirty-five years before dissappearing in popularity. At the same time, rock and roll was born. Rock and roll continued its steady increase in popularity. In the late ’60’s, disco came about. It’s popularity lasted for about twenty or so years. Rock and roll (and Rock) continued its steady increase in popularity. Hip-hop came about in the mid 70’s, moving to things such as “gangsta rap.” Rock continued its steady increase in popularity. All of the old rockers introduce rock to their kids. It’s constantly gaining popularity. I’ll admit rap is gonna last for at most another ten to fifteen years. But as in every genre of music other than Classical and Rock, it only has a small little piece of popularity, before it just dies out. In my opinion, there are only two “solid” genres of music - Rock and Classical. They are the only types of music that can change completely in style from song to song. They are the only two than can completely show a mood. They can show happiness, sadness, anger, etc.
That is all I have to say…
30 Jun 07
I agree with you!
All that bullshits we hear on the radio and tv is not hip hop, its hit pop! Fuck MTV!
04 Jul 07
i hate rap just cause who want to here a bunch of so called gansters talk about rims and grills and just play a damn keyboard and classic rock used a band like drums and guitars and bass that was the good music mtv was built on classic rock and now all they play is damn rap and hip hop i want a classic rock musis channel that plays guns n roses and ac dc and pink floyd good music like that.
07 Jul 07
i agree with u mtv was built on classic rock we need a mtv classic channel instead of this gay crap now a days.
24 Aug 07
RAP bums me out - what genre could people with less talent make a living, make millions, buy a HUMMER??? Let’s see……we’ll get somebody to lay down a BEAT, write down some CRAP about stealing stuff, smoking crack and getting laid and keep telling people that it’s ART [through the brainwashing media] the masses will buy it [like they/we do whatever else the media sells them like idiotic little mindless animals, mice on a wheel, lambs to the slaughter....] Like wearing pants that don’t fit, putting hats on turned to the side, bling, bling, bling - WHATEVER!!!! Whoever can’t write a song, play an instrument or sing…guess what ??? YOU CAN RAP!!! Don’t worry - there’s hope for everybody ! AND - if you CAN’T do that - HANG IN THERE, you can be a PRODUCER!!! I LOVE that one.
I am listening to some new bands lately that can actually write some music, perform, sing…what a novelty. It’s hard to find but they are coming back - people playing guitar!! I don’t just mean 2 guys strumming the same damn power chords tuned down a step, guy SCREAMING [what the hell is that all about???] I mean somebody able to pull off a guitar solo [without SHREDDING] Melodys, nice tones………tasty, hearfelt, memorable
I am NOT anti this, anti that for the sake of pissing, moaning, complaining….I am really open minded about music - my tastes span the spectrum of styles/genres….it’s just that somethings really suck - hey, disco did, right?? We all [most of the population agree on that, yes??] I am here to say that RAP is the disco of the new millenium. If you got talent [other than cashing in on some HIP-HOP hip CRAP and buying a new CRIB and having a bunch of HO’s in a new video with your hat turned sideways and your friggin’ pants hanging down….WRITE A SONG with a melody, a chorus, a major HOOK, great lyrics and PLAY A FRIGGIN’ GUITAR SOLO.
I’LL BUY THE CD, PROMISE!!!!!
24 Jan 08
Rap is not music as much as it is urban poetry set to drum grooves that even these dumdshits can’t create themselves. I beleive in freedom of speech and these guys ,not to be confussed as “artists”, have a right to express their opinon. But please…..the Grammys only award this shit because the big record companies want the money that it generates. Nevermind degrodation of women, family values, guns, sex and perversing the youth of society thinking we should all go to the “dark side” of life because they had fucked up lives. What concerns me is that the record companies and ditstributors actually sell this shit as music. It is not!!! It is poetry and should be handled that way. As a musician who love Miles , Coltrane, Jimi, Sly, Legend, Prince, Cannonball, Ella, Holiday, you do this culture a dis-service.
10 Feb 08
i have played guitar for over 40 years and when they started calling rap music i almost vomited,rap and music have no relation and most rappers are x gang members who could’nt play a lick on an instrument,so give me a break calling rap music.
05 Mar 08
Why is EVERY rock & roll lover on here so CLOSED-MINDED? its ridiculous..
You people condemn ANYTHING that you don’t like or understand. You don’t even have an EDUCATED opinion!
06 Apr 08
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0nl54RdL3g
That is all. Thank you.
17 Apr 08
It’s as if noone here actually gave a shit what was said.
RAP is MUSIC.
Period.
For the little bitch who was talking about it won’t go over decades, Hip Hop/Rap has been around since the early 1980’s, stupid whores
And the guy talking about “Hit Em Up”, Tupac wrote that because he believe that Puffy and Biggie had plotted against him and were the men that shot him.
Rap is about real topics, not just about fucked up emotions and shit.
And yes, i’ve listen to all that metal shit and listened, hell, it talks about more sex and drugs than rap!
ICP?
Mary Magdalan?
Why the hell are you whining and bitching?
What was “You Shook All Night Long” Talking about?
SEX
And i’d like to take you up on that bullshitting you were saying about how your nerdy ass could take a beat, and overlay it with a rap and have a hit.
Try it
See how far you get.
I’m not going to say that all rap is good, but the people you hear on the radio and mtv, are a bunch of fake ass overcommercials.
Listen to Nas, Tupac, B.I.G., Eminem, Bone Thugs in Harmony, and definitely Kanye West, and none of his hits, try “Jesus Walks” or “Heard Em Say” or “We Don’t Care”
18 Apr 08
@ HIP HOP IS MUSIC:
You’re taking a piss if you were serious when you said “Why is EVERY rock & roll lover on here so CLOSED-MINDED?”
I am a huge rock fan and it is definitely my genre of choice. However, you can see by my comment on this post, on 23 Mar 06, that we are not all “CLOSED-MINDED”.
It would serve you well to keep in mind how angry you get when people make a generalized statement such as “All rap music is crap!” Remember that your own generalizations do no good other than to keep the division in place and show others that rap music paves the way for nothing more than disrespect, a lack of manners, etc.
If people don’t like the stereotypes cast upon them, then they should choose to not lash out and instead turn those emotions into something positive and work hard to change that maddening stereotype.
18 Apr 08
That’s off topic
anyway the majority of the people who like rap here haven’t said anything bad against rock/metal
The people who did are stupid
22 Oct 08
Rap is that distinct horrible music that you constantly hear at your highschool, or on the street if you live in a city, or on the radio, or on TV. It can be identifyed by the “drum” beat that continually loops over and over. Often, listeners of rap identify the quality of a rap “song” by how “phat” its beat is, or something like that.
Another major characteristic of rap, is the stupid lyrics that a bunch of “bad ass muthas” try to sing over the equally stupid drum machine and synthesizers. These lyrics are basically always about how they just busted a phat cap in their homeez azzes. Or about how “life is hard in the ghetto”. Nobody gives a crap how life is in the ghetto, last time I was in the ghetto my wallet got stolen, so shut the hell up.
Other crap I Hate About Rap
Theres lots of other stuff about rap I hate. For one thing, its the horrible glamorization of it and its “artists”. For example, I’d like any rap fan out there to tell me who wrote the music to any rap song (and none of those freaking cheap puffy songs count, cause he always just uses other peoples music, thus ruining the original song because his new “lyrics” suck). I mean who wrote the MUSIC, not the lyrics, which are written by the stupid ass rappers. I’ll tell you who wrote the music, a bunch of people you’ve never heard of in your life, and never will, who know how to operate drum machines and computers. Basically, the rap “artist” asks them to make a real “phat” beat, they do so until its “phat” enough, then the rapper dubs in the lyrics over it. Ever notice that at rap “concerts” theres about 30 people in the background, aside from the stupid rapper and the 90 backup dancers, that you’ve never seen in your life? Those would be the people I’m talking about. But of course, the rap “artist” always gets 100% credit for their new “song”. However, I can tell you exactly who wrote both the lyrics and music to say, the Metallica song “The Call of Ktulu”. The 4 (original) members of Metallica did, and they played the song themselves, with actual instruments (REAL drums, for example). I would like to see any rap “artist” pick up any real instrument and do anything impressive with it. Oh but wait, I made a mistake, “The Call of Ktulu” doesn’t have lyrics, because its whats called an instrumental song. Of course in the rap world, nobody knows what the hell that means. Theres no instrumental rap songs, cause they would be freaking boring as hell. And theres not a single rapper or rap fan who can appreciate the talent it took to record a song like The Call of Ktulu.
Dead Rappers
The Notorious F.A.T and Deadpac. You know who I’m talking about. Their retarded music is what killed them. If they weren’t rappers they would still be alive, not that I would give a crap. The whole west side\east side thing, that whole stupid deal started cause of rap. Its stupid, who gives a poo about the “east side” or “west side”. God knows I dont. I dont think in the history of metal and rock any artist has ever been murdered. Except for John Lennon I suppose, but that had nothing to do with his music, the murderer was just insane. And then theres the people who claim Deadpac is still alive. Oh my god, he is NOT still alive, would you still be alive if you got SHOT IN THE HEAD, no! Here is why I believe he is dead: murder —> autopsy –> funeral.
Real Music
Real music is defined as: not FREAKING rap! Basically, I consider any music that isn’t rap\pop\techno to be real music. Any music played with instruments is real music. I’m not saying I like ALL real music, but I’m saying it’s a hell of a lot better than any rap. I like metal and “classic” rock. Like Metallica, Black Sabbath, Led Zeppelin, Rush, Allman Brothers, Jimi Hendrix and Lynyrd Skynyrd. These are actual bands, these bands wrote their own music, played their own music, and it took a hell of a lot of talent to do it. And if your a rap fan, please don’t try to argue that rap is better just cause of the ‘rapping’. Who the hell cares if there isn’t some gangster spitting out lyrics wicked fast, theres a lot more to good music than that. Metallica of course, is still around, and has been since 1983, and they still kick ass. Black Sabbath has been around for almost 30 years, can you name one rapper that lasts that long? Can you name one rapper who has more than 2 or 3 successfull songs? I doubt it. Take Ricky Martin for example, he’s not rap, but he’s glammy pop crap, do you think your still even gonna know who he is a year from now? Probably not