Comments on: Internet Tone http://blog.logtar.com/2006/02/14/internet-tone/ A road without obstacles leads nowhere. Thu, 08 Jan 2009 21:15:39 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: billy http://blog.logtar.com/2006/02/14/internet-tone/comment-page-1/#comment-65125 billy Sat, 18 Feb 2006 02:11:00 +0000 http://blog.logtar.com/?p=648#comment-65125 although i understand what you are expressing i still think that some people can't help it but hide behind the machine. it's the way it is. not everyone is stable and confident in the crowd. it's the way it blows sometimes. although i understand what you are expressing i still think that some people can’t help it but hide behind the machine. it’s the way it is. not everyone is stable and confident in the crowd. it’s the way it blows sometimes.

]]> By: Marchal http://blog.logtar.com/2006/02/14/internet-tone/comment-page-1/#comment-64919 Marchal Thu, 16 Feb 2006 05:17:32 +0000 http://blog.logtar.com/?p=648#comment-64919 Oh - the cartoon link did not work. I am sure you know the cartoon already, it is quite popular, anyway here is the URL: http://www.unc.edu/depts/jomc/academics/dri/idog.jpg Oh - the cartoon link did not work. I am sure you know the cartoon already, it is quite popular, anyway here is the URL: http://www.unc.edu/depts/jomc/academics/dri/idog.jpg

]]> By: Marchal http://blog.logtar.com/2006/02/14/internet-tone/comment-page-1/#comment-64918 Marchal Thu, 16 Feb 2006 05:15:11 +0000 http://blog.logtar.com/?p=648#comment-64918 Hi Logtar, a few random thoughts: thanks for calling me a friend for I feel the same to you - just from what I know about you from your blog. As for internet personas vs RealLife I think this is both a bug and a feature of online communication. I always liked <a> this cartoon </a> - online communication allows you to act in a way your real life persona might usually prevent allowing you to get into contact with people who would not look at you twice IRL. Of course the bug-factor is there quite strongly, as well, as you describe it. On the other hand I think it is not possible to have completely contradictory personality traits IRL and online respectively - a little bit of truth remains in both personas and perhaps the "real reality" lies somewhere in between with everybody. As for me IRL: I fear I belong to the toned down versions, being much shyer IRL than I am online, much more withdrawn, much less eloquent and a lot fatter I fear. And of course online I present only a small portion of my geekishness. Hmmm...should work at it. Kind regards Marchal Hi Logtar,
a few random thoughts:
thanks for calling me a friend for I feel the same to you - just from what I know about you from your blog.
As for internet personas vs RealLife I think this is both a bug and a feature of online communication. I always liked this cartoon - online communication allows you to act in a way your real life persona might usually prevent allowing you to get into contact with people who would not look at you twice IRL. Of course the bug-factor is there quite strongly, as well, as you describe it.
On the other hand I think it is not possible to have completely contradictory personality traits IRL and online respectively - a little bit of truth remains in both personas and perhaps the “real reality” lies somewhere in between with everybody.
As for me IRL: I fear I belong to the toned down versions, being much shyer IRL than I am online, much more withdrawn, much less eloquent and a lot fatter I fear. And of course online I present only a small portion of my geekishness. Hmmm…should work at it.
Kind regards Marchal

]]> By: April http://blog.logtar.com/2006/02/14/internet-tone/comment-page-1/#comment-64890 April Wed, 15 Feb 2006 21:09:22 +0000 http://blog.logtar.com/?p=648#comment-64890 Well, the truth is, is that all of the bloggers whom I read, I would love to meet IRL. I don't read blogs that I wouldn't want to meet IRL, because I honestly don't have too many friends here in Houston, because I'm usually too busy, and the internet is my favorite way to make friends. Shoot, I mean, I met my husband online, and so, what does that say about me? Some would say I was crazy, but others see how kewl it is. I have only met one person from online, but it was awesome. I have been online since about 1998, and like you, I acknowledge that there is an internet persona and a real personality one has. If you met me in person, you would find, that I am almost exactly who I am on my blog, except in person, I am more personal. Well, the truth is, is that all of the bloggers whom I read, I would love to meet IRL. I don’t read blogs that I wouldn’t want to meet IRL, because I honestly don’t have too many friends here in Houston, because I’m usually too busy, and the internet is my favorite way to make friends. Shoot, I mean, I met my husband online, and so, what does that say about me? Some would say I was crazy, but others see how kewl it is. I have only met one person from online, but it was awesome. I have been online since about 1998, and like you, I acknowledge that there is an internet persona and a real personality one has. If you met me in person, you would find, that I am almost exactly who I am on my blog, except in person, I am more personal.

]]> By: Jorgeq http://blog.logtar.com/2006/02/14/internet-tone/comment-page-1/#comment-64709 Jorgeq Tue, 14 Feb 2006 22:51:19 +0000 http://blog.logtar.com/?p=648#comment-64709 Very interesting point Logtar. The fact that some bloggers share some day-to-day life experiences through this medium that is the web, that's how I begin to establish a more personal connection with those people because even though I might not know them personally, I begin to take interest. I guess I'm more fascinated in how we can all maintain connected regardless of our geographical location. I would be neat to meet fellow bloggers in person though. Some often create Blogger Meets. Very interesting point Logtar. The fact that some bloggers share some day-to-day life experiences through this medium that is the web, that’s how I begin to establish a more personal connection with those people because even though I might not know them personally, I begin to take interest.

I guess I’m more fascinated in how we can all maintain connected regardless of our geographical location. I would be neat to meet fellow bloggers in person though. Some often create Blogger Meets.

]]> By: Michael http://blog.logtar.com/2006/02/14/internet-tone/comment-page-1/#comment-64703 Michael Tue, 14 Feb 2006 21:29:16 +0000 http://blog.logtar.com/?p=648#comment-64703 I am proud to be called a friend, sir. It's an honor and I consider you to be a freind as well. Someday we shall meet and party like it's 1999... Oh wait.... That said, I do find it's hard to convey tone on-line. I think that's why you should read more than one entry in a blog to get a feel for who the person is as it were. But that's just me. I am proud to be called a friend, sir. It’s an honor and I consider you to be a freind as well.

Someday we shall meet and party like it’s 1999…

Oh wait….

That said, I do find it’s hard to convey tone on-line. I think that’s why you should read more than one entry in a blog to get a feel for who the person is as it were. But that’s just me.

]]> By: Christopher Allen http://blog.logtar.com/2006/02/14/internet-tone/comment-page-1/#comment-64694 Christopher Allen Tue, 14 Feb 2006 19:46:11 +0000 http://blog.logtar.com/?p=648#comment-64694 The original paper says the chance of picking correctly the intent of irony vs sincerity was no better then random chance. Choosing between irony vs sincerity is one of the toughest problems in plain text. One thing that makes it tough is that by convention we typically use "quotes" to show something is ironic. Yet this conflicts with using quotes for quotes, quotes for emphasis, and quotes for calling attention to a phrase — all common uses of quotes in text. No wonder we can't interpret irony accurately. There are also a number of other psychological and sociological causes for the cycle of flames, including over-interpretation of emotional content, emotional contagion, and lowered empathy during higher intensity emotions. I've written more about these in my blog at <a href="http://www.lifewithalacrity.com/2006/02/flames_emotiona.html" rel="nofollow">Flames: Emotional Amplification of Text</a>. The original paper says the chance of picking correctly the intent of irony vs sincerity was no better then random chance. Choosing between irony vs sincerity is one of the toughest problems in plain text. One thing that makes it tough is that by convention we typically use “quotes” to show something is ironic. Yet this conflicts with using quotes for quotes, quotes for emphasis, and quotes for calling attention to a phrase — all common uses of quotes in text. No wonder we can’t interpret irony accurately.

There are also a number of other psychological and sociological causes for the cycle of flames, including over-interpretation of emotional content, emotional contagion, and lowered empathy during higher intensity emotions. I’ve written more about these in my blog at Flames: Emotional Amplification of Text.

]]> By: Travis http://blog.logtar.com/2006/02/14/internet-tone/comment-page-1/#comment-64681 Travis Tue, 14 Feb 2006 18:37:58 +0000 http://blog.logtar.com/?p=648#comment-64681 I don't think I have ever had a problem looking you in the eyes and being just as much of an arse in real life as I am online. Granted, I also know you. And in a way, that also worked to our advantage as well. Because, as we know, I am also racist and there is no reason I should give a darn about you. But you are my friend nonetheless. I wouldn't have it any other way. I don’t think I have ever had a problem looking you in the eyes and being just as much of an arse in real life as I am online. Granted, I also know you. And in a way, that also worked to our advantage as well. Because, as we know, I am also racist and there is no reason I should give a darn about you. But you are my friend nonetheless. I wouldn’t have it any other way.

]]> By: Becky http://blog.logtar.com/2006/02/14/internet-tone/comment-page-1/#comment-64678 Becky Tue, 14 Feb 2006 17:56:01 +0000 http://blog.logtar.com/?p=648#comment-64678 You bring up a great point about how people are often more verbal online than they would ever be in person. Or, how even on my own blog sometimes people completely miss the point of my post, as evidenced by their comments. However, for what it's worth, all of the bloggers that I have met in-person have been pretty honest and down to earth. While there is no way to completely understand who they are online, I've not been disappointed yet. Most are actually more open and honest in person, as I think we all exercise some degree of censorship on our pages, esp. when real-life friends and family read our blogs. You bring up a great point about how people are often more verbal online than they would ever be in person. Or, how even on my own blog sometimes people completely miss the point of my post, as evidenced by their comments. However, for what it’s worth, all of the bloggers that I have met in-person have been pretty honest and down to earth. While there is no way to completely understand who they are online, I’ve not been disappointed yet. Most are actually more open and honest in person, as I think we all exercise some degree of censorship on our pages, esp. when real-life friends and family read our blogs.

]]> By: Daniel http://blog.logtar.com/2006/02/14/internet-tone/comment-page-1/#comment-64657 Daniel Tue, 14 Feb 2006 14:29:51 +0000 http://blog.logtar.com/?p=648#comment-64657 It's easy to feel invulnerable when you don't have to stare your audience in the face. I think that's why some truly nice people can come across as pompous asses online. It’s easy to feel invulnerable when you don’t have to stare your audience in the face. I think that’s why some truly nice people can come across as pompous asses online.

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